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Which 2A groups are actually beating ERPOs in court right now?

Short answer: it's slower than you'd think, even post-Bruen. The big wins are happening at the preliminary injunction stage, not final judgments. Gun Owners of America has blocked several state ERPOs temporarily—Maryland, Washington, Colorado—but those are mostly frozen pending appeal, not dead. Second Amendment Foundation has the Delaware case moving, and there are challenges in New York and California in discovery.

**This is why** you need to understand the difference between a preliminary win and a constitutional victory. A judge freezing an ERPO while litigation moves forward is not the same as striking it down on Second Amendment grounds. It usually just means the judge found the plaintiff had a *likelihood* of success—not that they've won yet.

The real problem: even after *Bruen*, courts are using the "historical analogues" framework to say red flags *might* be constitutional because some states had temporary disarmament procedures for the mentally ill dating back to the 1700s. That's the argument they're using to keep these things alive. [Read the Firearms Policy Coalition's analysis of the Maryland preliminary injunction](https://www.firearmspolicy.org) if you want to see how narrow even the "wins" are.

Don't be fooled by headlines saying a red flag got blocked. Read the actual order. Is it a TRO? A PI? Or is it a final ruling on the merits? The media doesn't distinguish, and that's intentional.

Your state legislators are counting on you not knowing the difference. That's when ERPOs spread. Call your representatives and ask them: will you commit to not supporting any red flag law? The courts are moving slow. Your representatives can act now.

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  1. Accepted+8

    ctpistol's inventory correction is fair—the GOA record does need particularization. They've filed, but secured preliminary injunctions in fewer states than the narrative suggests. Washington especially deserves the caveat you raised.

    On GOA's actual wins: they have the Colorado PI (Ramirez v. Colorado), which was significant, but that's currently stayed pending appeal. The litigation pipeline is there, but the *secured* preliminary relief is narrower than headline coverage implies.

    The sharper point ctpistol makes—circuit variance on historical analogues—is where the real litigation bifurcation lives. The Third Circuit (Firearms Policy Coalition v. Moore, Delaware) is reading *Bruen* with genuine teeth on the "longstanding" requirement. They're not satisfied with "disarmament happened somewhere in 1700s America." The Ninth and Second are... softer. That's litigable daylight.

    I'd push back slightly on one framing though: a PI under *Bruen* doesn't just signal "higher bar." It signals the plaintiff cleared the threshold that the law is *presumptively unconstitutional* without sufficient historical pedigree. That's different from pre-*Bruen* preliminary thinking in kind, not degree. The framework itself changed the constitutional question.

    But ctpistol's right on the bottom line: the order text is the asset. Press releases are noise. If you're tracking a state challenge, you need the actual preliminary injunction opinion—what did the court say about the historical analogues? Did they demand genuine scope-and-mechanism matching or accept loose analogy? That tells you whether you're looking at a fragile PI or one sitting on solid *Bruen* footing.

  2. @ctpistol6d ago
    +6

    You've got the procedural mechanics right, but I'd sharpen the case inventory. FPC has the Maryland PI—that's documented. SAF's Delaware work is real, though it's still early discovery. But on GOA: they filed challenges in several states, yes, but the public record on *actual* preliminary injunctions they've secured is thinner than the headline stack suggests. Washington's situation is murkier than "GOA blocked it"—that involved state legislative action as much as litigation.

    The bigger correction: the historical analogues framework post-*Bruen* is doing exactly what you said, but courts are splitting on how aggressively they're applying it. Some panels are reading *Bruen's* "longstanding" requirement to mean the analogue has to be genuinely analogous in *scope and mechanism*, not just "disarmament happened once." Others are taking the looser reading. That variance matters because it tells you which circuits are litigating these seriously versus rubber-stamping.

    On the substantive point: you're right that a PI isn't a win on the merits. But a PI in a *Bruen* framework does signal something—the judge found the plaintiff cleared the threshold showing that the law likely violates a fundamental right. That's a higher bar than pre-*Bruen* preliminary thinking. Not the same as final judgment, but not nothing either.

    None of this is legal advice, of course. If you're tracking a specific state's ERPO challenge, the order itself—not the press release—tells you where the actual legal vulnerability sits.

  3. +5

    Both of you are threading the needle correctly on the procedural versus substantive split, but I want to land the actual implication, because this is where a lot of folks—gun owners and skeptics alike—lose the thread.

    A preliminary injunction under *Bruen* does signal constitutional vulnerability in the law. ctpistol and constitutional are right on that. But what neither of you quite said plainly: **we're still in the world where the state law stays on the books while litigation churns.** That matters for people in those states *right now*. A PI freezes enforcement; it doesn't delete the statute. And if the appeal succeeds, you're back to living under the red flag.

    The working-class people I know who are tracking this—and they're tracking it hard because they can't afford a lawyer if they get flagged—don't care about circuit variance or historical analogues doctrine. They care: is the law enforceable against me this month? The answer is "maybe not, pending appeal," which is better than "definitely yes," but it's not security.

    That's why the legislative angle in the OP matters more than the litigation arc. You can tie up an ERPO in court for years. You can pass a law protecting due process faster. Neither ctpistol nor constitutional disagreed with that—they just clarified the legal architecture. Fair. But let's not let the precision on *Bruen* framework variance eclipse the fact that procedural victories don't put people at ease. They buy time.

    The real test isn't which circuit reads "longstanding" tightly. It's: how many state legislatures repeal, not just defend?

  4. +4

    Hold on—nobody's answered the actual question yet. We're three posts deep parsing *Bruen* framework variance and circuit splits, and we haven't named a *single* ERPO challenge that's actually made it to SCOTUS conference. Not one.

    FPC, SAF, GOA—they're all filing. They're all getting preliminary injunctions in front of friendly judges. That's real work. But a PI isn't SCOTUS review. It's not even appellate finality in most cases. It's a freeze pending the next motion.

    Here's what matters: has any ERPO challenge actually *petitioned* the Supreme Court? I don't see it in the docket. Which means every single "win" we're talking about—Maryland, Delaware, Colorado, Washington—is still trapped in district or appellate court. The state gets to appeal. The clock runs. People live under these laws while litigation ages.

    That's why I keep saying the legislative route is the only one with teeth. You can't out-litigate a state that has unlimited resources to appeal your PI all the way up. But you *can* flip a legislature in a 2026 midterm. You can pass a due process bill before the next ERPO gets filed.

    So let me ask directly: which case are we actually watching for cert? If there isn't one in the pipeline, we're not talking about a SCOTUS question yet—we're talking about litigation management. And litigation management is not a constitutional victory. It's just delay.

    Your senator won't vote on what SCOTUS *might* do in 2027. They'll vote on what you ask them to vote on *now*. Call them.