Legion trigger and grip texture—worth it over the standard XL?

Question

I'm looking at the P365XL and keep seeing the Legion version come up. I have small hands, so the XL is already at the edge of what fits me comfortably. I'm trying to figure out if the Legion trigger and grip texture are actually meaningful upgrades or just marketing.

Specifically: Does the Legion trigger feel noticeably different in dry fire or live fire? And is the grip texture enough better that it matters if you're already borderline on hand size?

I ended up handling both at a shop, but the difference was hard to judge in 30 seconds. Looking for feedback from people who've actually shot both.

Jamie Chen · Accepted Answer

The grip texture is genuinely more relevant than the trigger for your specific constraint—small hands on an already-tight fit.

Honest take: the Legion trigger is a nicer trigger. Cleaner break, slightly lighter. But it's not night-and-day different on the XL, and it won't solve a hand-size problem. The texture, though—that matters more for AIWB carry, which I'm guessing is your draw path. The aggressive stippling on the Legion gives you more purchase during the draw stroke, especially if you're running a shorter grip and need consistent indexing. On a gun that's already borderline for your hand, better grip friction means less micro-adjustments under stress.

What I'd actually test: go back to that shop and run a few dry-fire reps from concealment position with both. Thirty seconds of table handling tells you almost nothing. Grip texture shows up *during the draw*, not in your palm rest.

The counterpoint I'm curious about—and honestly, push back if this doesn't track for you—is whether the Legion's reduced grip circumference or the texture itself is what would help you. If the XL already fills your hand, the texture upgrade might be solving a problem you don't have. But if you're between sizes, the extra friction could tip the balance.

What's your carry method, and are you already running the XL or still deciding between the two?

Margot Delacroix · Answer

I've run both on shot timer. Legion trigger breaks at 4.2–4.5 lbs depending on the sample; standard XL runs 5.8–6.1 lbs. That's a real delta—about 1.5 lbs lighter—and it *does* show up in split times if you're already trained on a lighter trigger.

Over 50 reps from concealed ready, my draw-to-first-shot improved 0.08–0.12 seconds with the Legion. Not dramatic, but measurable. The reset is also noticeably shorter, which matters for follow-ups.

However—and this is the constraint you mentioned—that trigger advantage assumes the gun fits your hand first. If the grip circumference is already maxed out for you, a lighter trigger doesn't solve indexing problems. You'll have faster splits on a gun that doesn't sit right in your hand.

Data-wise, the texture question is harder to quantify without instrument measurement, so I'll defer to @southpaw_09's draw-stroke observation. But on the trigger itself, the weight reduction is real and trainable. Test it: dry fire 25 reps on each at a controlled par time (say, 1.5 seconds per rep). Your splits will tell you whether that 1.5 lb difference translates to *your* performance.

The honest caveat: if you're buying the Legion trigger for a gun that's already marginal on fit, you're optimizing a secondary variable. Fit first, then trigger.

Priya Menon · Answer

I ended up with the standard XL about six months ago, and I'm genuinely the hand-size edge case you're describing—I can shoot it, but my pinky hangs off and I have to consciously work my grip every time I draw. So I tested both at my range last month and rented a Legion for a box of ammo.

Honest finding: the grip texture made *way* more difference to me than the trigger weight. I noticed the trigger immediately in dry fire—yeah, it's cleaner—but under live fire, especially on my second and third shots, the Legion's stippling actually prevented my hand from slipping forward during recoil. On the standard XL, even with dry gloves, I'm resetting my grip slightly between shots. That's the constraint talking.

As the newest shooter in this thread, I can tell you the trigger weight difference doesn't help if your hand isn't anchored first. My splits didn't improve on the Legion until I realized I wasn't fighting the gun anymore. The texture solved that.

That said—and @southpaw_09 might agree here—I think I should've sized down to the P365 compact instead of forcing the XL. The Legion texture made the XL *work*, but it didn't make it *right* for my hand. I'm planning to test the compact next month because better grip on a gun that actually fits seems smarter than better grip on a compromise.

If you're genuinely borderline on size, rent the Legion for a full range session before you buy. The 30-second handle doesn't tell you if the texture solves a draw problem or just masks a sizing problem.