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Should we plan to stay or leave if things get bad?

My partner and I have been talking about home defense and what we'd actually do if an emergency happened — like a major storm or civil unrest nearby. I think I'm hearing two different takes online: some people talk about bugging out (leaving), and others say staying home is smarter for families like us. I'm genuinely confused about which applies to us.

We live in a suburban neighborhood, nothing rural. We have kids, jobs in the area, and honestly, I don't think we're the type to have a bug-out bag ready. I'm also not sure what we'd be bugging out *to* — a hotel? Family an hour away?

My questions:

- Is bug-in (staying) really the default for people in suburbs with families, or are we missing something? - What kind of scenarios make staying safer vs. leaving? Is it just "if the danger is outside, stay home"? - If we do stay, what are we actually preparing? Water, food, a safe room? - How does having a gun fit into this? I know my partner thinks it's part of home defense, but I want to understand if it's about external threats or something else.

I want us to think through this together before we make any decisions. Any perspective that doesn't assume we're already preppers would help.

3 answers
  1. @kept.simple2d ago
    +6

    gulfcoast_ops nailed the scenario piece, but here's what actually makes staying put work: **water and food for a week, minimum.**

    I say that because I've watched people plan the defensive angles—the gun, the safe room, the comms—and then realize on day three that they're out of drinking water and the kids are hungry. That's when the stay-put plan collapses.

    The math is simple. One gallon per person per day for drinking and basic cooking. Five days minimum = five gallons per person. Multiply by your household. Store it now, rotate it annually. Food doesn't need to be fancy—canned goods, pasta, peanut butter, anything shelf-stable that your family will actually eat. If you have a power outage, that matters more than ammunition.

    Why I'm saying this: most suburban families spend energy on the exciting stuff (the defensive piece, the plan) and skip the unglamorous supply chain. Then weather or civil unrest hits, and "staying put" becomes "trapped and out of resources." That's not home defense. That's just being stuck.

    Start with water and food. The gun is the last thing you'd need. Everything else—communication, a battery radio, first aid—builds from there.

    Your partner's right that a gun fits into home defense. But it solves maybe 5% of the actual problem. Water solves 50%.

  2. This thread actually shifted how I'm thinking about what we need to do, and I want to check something with you both.

    I came in worried that we were missing some critical piece—like the gun was the thing holding everything together, or that not having a bug-out plan meant we were unprepared. But reading through this, I'm realizing we've been framing it backwards.

    So the water and food piece—that's actually something we can start *now* without needing to make any bigger decisions first. My partner and I have been talking about doing a storm prep kit anyway because we're in a zone that gets hurricane season. We'd need water and shelf-stable food for that regardless of what we decide about longer-term home defense, right?

    What I'm not sure about: when kept.simple says the gun "solves maybe 5%," I hear that, but my question is—do we need to figure out *whether* to have one before we stock the water and food? Or are those actually separate decisions? Because my partner thinks they're connected, and I want to make sure we're not putting the cart before the horse.

    Also, gulfcoast_ops mentioned having a "predetermined location" for bugging out. We actually do have family an hour away who'd take us in. Does that change the calculus at all, or are we still defaulting to staying put for most scenarios?

    I appreciate how concrete this got. It helps to separate the actual planning from the internet arguments.

  3. +4

    **Let me break this apart**, because what you're actually asking isn't about bug-out bags—it's about scenario recognition.

    The "stay vs. go" internet argument mostly doesn't hold up once you separate the actual hazards. Here's what matters:

    **What scenario are we talking about?** A major storm? Stay put. You have shelter, utilities (for now), and roads are unsafe. Civil unrest nearby? Depends hard on "nearby." Is it three blocks away or three miles? Is it moving toward your neighborhood or away? That distinction changes everything.

    **The suburban default actually is stay-put**, and not because preppers say so—because logistics. You have a house. You have a network. You have jobs. Bugging out to *where* with kids is the real question, and "a hotel an hour away" during an active emergency often means gridlocked roads and burned fuel. You'd need a predetermined location, someone expecting you, and a clear trigger. Most families don't have that, and that's fine.

    **Your gun fits into this like this**: Home defense typically means *external* threats during civil disorder or property crime when police are overwhelmed. Not about internal threats. It's deterrent + last resort if someone forces entry. But that's a smaller piece of the picture than water, food, and communication.

    **My recommendation for your profile**: Start with a simple framework. Pick two realistic scenarios (regional storm, local unrest) and walk through each one. What do you actually need to stay home safely for 5-7 days? What's the trigger to leave? Once *that's* clear, gear and training get way simpler.

    Don't prep like you're leaving. Prep like you're staying, then ask "when wouldn't this work?"